Post by Sisilaya Vulmecura on Dec 4, 2011 9:16:13 GMT -5
These topic have come up before in the c-box. But I think it's a better idea we start using this forum again. First, you tend to think more what you're saying when you're making a forum post (well, at least I do) and we have time to read back what the other is saying.
First a few rules here.
Well two really.
1: Respect the other for their opinion
2: Respect the other for what they believe in
This means we can have a debate on historical facts, differences, but not whether the other is right or wrong for being of a certain faith, like Christianity, Muslim, Buddhism, Pagan, ect. This doesn't mean we cannot talk about it, but try and keep it to a respectful level.
CLAUSE:
Should we hold on strictly to Sabbatical days when new sciences find out their date is misplaced?
It's been found out that Jesus was most likely born in July instead of December as previously thought. While Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, should Christmas be moved now, to keep to the historical facts or should Christmas stay as it is? What most likely happened is that the birth of Christ was placed on the 25th of December so that the Christian holiday integrated with the already existing Yule midwinter equinox (21st of December till 23rd of December). That way people could convert to Christianity but not lose their traditions.
What is more important, traditions of getting together and loving your others or staying to the historical facts of a religion? Do they really matter?
Should we realize too why certain holidays were placed on those dates and why we have sometimes more heathen traditions like Christmas trees, Easter bunnies and respect those traditions too even though they might not be in the origin of the religion?
In other words. What is more important, the thought of Christmas as we know it (snow, cold, ect), the time of toleration, giving and love for your others or that we stay true to the meaning of the religious holiday itself and shutting other heathen influences out? Australians after all have Christmas right smack in the middle of summer, so why can't we?
Your thoughts!
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I myself am of the opinion that the true meaning of a holiday does not matter as much as the tradition of a season where we all share, give and love and that is something that should be celebrated. And the fact if it's historically correct or not, that is something for people to decide themselves.
I am not Christian, yet I still I celebrate Christmas with my family because of the tradition. Because I love the feeling of Christmas, doing just that little extra, to cook a Christmas dinner for my mum and watch Christmas movies on tv with a mug of hot coco. I grew up with that and even though my religious celebration is Yule now, I still remember that feeling I used to have with Christmas and I would miss that if I only celebrated Yule.
When it comes to the Christmas tree, I only recently (the last 4 years) started seeing it for the heathen symbol it really is. People during the old days placed lights in trees and decorate them to celebrate the returning of the light. After Yule the days started becoming longer again and that was a very important celebration back in the days. I don't really see anything wrong with this type of celebration, even if I still would have been a Christian (I was raised Catholic). The returning of the light is something that is celebrated in every culture.
First a few rules here.
Well two really.
1: Respect the other for their opinion
2: Respect the other for what they believe in
This means we can have a debate on historical facts, differences, but not whether the other is right or wrong for being of a certain faith, like Christianity, Muslim, Buddhism, Pagan, ect. This doesn't mean we cannot talk about it, but try and keep it to a respectful level.
CLAUSE:
Should we hold on strictly to Sabbatical days when new sciences find out their date is misplaced?
It's been found out that Jesus was most likely born in July instead of December as previously thought. While Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, should Christmas be moved now, to keep to the historical facts or should Christmas stay as it is? What most likely happened is that the birth of Christ was placed on the 25th of December so that the Christian holiday integrated with the already existing Yule midwinter equinox (21st of December till 23rd of December). That way people could convert to Christianity but not lose their traditions.
What is more important, traditions of getting together and loving your others or staying to the historical facts of a religion? Do they really matter?
Should we realize too why certain holidays were placed on those dates and why we have sometimes more heathen traditions like Christmas trees, Easter bunnies and respect those traditions too even though they might not be in the origin of the religion?
In other words. What is more important, the thought of Christmas as we know it (snow, cold, ect), the time of toleration, giving and love for your others or that we stay true to the meaning of the religious holiday itself and shutting other heathen influences out? Australians after all have Christmas right smack in the middle of summer, so why can't we?
Your thoughts!
________________________________________
I myself am of the opinion that the true meaning of a holiday does not matter as much as the tradition of a season where we all share, give and love and that is something that should be celebrated. And the fact if it's historically correct or not, that is something for people to decide themselves.
I am not Christian, yet I still I celebrate Christmas with my family because of the tradition. Because I love the feeling of Christmas, doing just that little extra, to cook a Christmas dinner for my mum and watch Christmas movies on tv with a mug of hot coco. I grew up with that and even though my religious celebration is Yule now, I still remember that feeling I used to have with Christmas and I would miss that if I only celebrated Yule.
When it comes to the Christmas tree, I only recently (the last 4 years) started seeing it for the heathen symbol it really is. People during the old days placed lights in trees and decorate them to celebrate the returning of the light. After Yule the days started becoming longer again and that was a very important celebration back in the days. I don't really see anything wrong with this type of celebration, even if I still would have been a Christian (I was raised Catholic). The returning of the light is something that is celebrated in every culture.
