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Post by The Tenth Doctor on Jul 20, 2010 17:30:55 GMT -5
Please discuss what the concept of regeneration means to you.....I will post my answer to this later.
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Post by Susan Foreman on Jul 20, 2010 17:57:19 GMT -5
I always imagined the first time to painful [perverted joke deleted]. Time Lords are born with one heart, but then after their first regeneration they get a second. And so I imagine creating a new heart from scratch must hurt... seriously bad. xD
Also - I have a theory that Time Lords get more chromosomes after they regenerate the first time. So maybe only Time Lords that haven't regenerated can reproduce with humans? I have no actual DW proof to back that up, but with a new heart the DNA must change. And since the DNA change, and therefore what they look like, they'd get new sets of chromosomes - and they might get more to deal with the more complex functions they now have to perform. And two species with a different set of chromosomes can't reproduce. So.. I don't know. >_>
Also some regenerations seem to go wrong. So I'm thinking that it has to do with location. Pretty much whenever a regeneration happens that's not in the TARDIS something seems to eff up. Like the Fifth Doctor and his -brief- personality crisis. but i don't know. xD
And also some Time Lords can choose how they appear. |: but I think this is just when they voluntarily regenerate. \:[/size]
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Post by The Tenth Doctor on Jul 20, 2010 18:18:01 GMT -5
I always imagined the first time to painful [perverted joke deleted]. Time Lords are born with one heart, but then after their first regeneration they get a second. And so I imagine creating a new heart from scratch must hurt... seriously bad. xD
Also - I have a theory that Time Lords get more chromosomes after they regenerate the first time. So maybe only Time Lords that haven't regenerated can reproduce with humans? I have no actual DW proof to back that up, but with a new heart the DNA must change. And since the DNA change, and therefore what they look like, they'd get new sets of chromosomes - and they might get more to deal with the more complex functions they now have to perform. And two species with a different set of chromosomes can't reproduce. So.. I don't know. >_>
Also some regenerations seem to go wrong. So I'm thinking that it has to do with location. Pretty much whenever a regeneration happens that's not in the TARDIS something seems to eff up. Like the Fifth Doctor and his -brief- personality crisis. but i don't know. xD
And also some Time Lords can choose how they appear. |: but I think this is just when they voluntarily regenerate. \: [/size][/quote] depends on what DW resource you use -- some say that Time Lords are born with two hearts Also, when Nine regenerated into Ten, he was in the TARDIS. Like I said..in this RP, even if they are different species' they can reproduce. Lions and Tigers can have children -- they are ligers or tigons, depending which one is its mother and which one is its father Also, donkeys and horses....
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Post by Susan Foreman on Jul 20, 2010 18:29:11 GMT -5
Yes, but lions and tigers have the same amount of chromosomes. But, for example, elephants and... peacocks. They have a different amount, so they wouldn't be able to reproduce. :3 Although that would look amazing. Can you imagine an elephant/peacock baby? XD
Anyway - yeah, I see your point about Time Lords and humans, though. I think I'm just a bit too much of a science nerd sometimes. >.<
I tend to go with 'time lords have one heart at birth'. >.>
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Post by The Tenth Doctor on Jul 25, 2010 17:44:31 GMT -5
okay, here goes:
Post 1
LOL....well, actually it's a theological term. I don't know if that's where the creators of Doctor Who got the word from....but it's fitting.
Where did my faith sharing NT go? Urghhh....it has the definition in it, and it's phrased nicely. Sigh...I can't find it. I was thinking about it the other day, and I didn't try to find it then. My parents have one at home. I'll have to look at it when I'm home. For now, though, I'll have to settle with what my theological dictionaries say about it.
Okay...here's what A Handbook of Theological Terms says about regeneration:
Regeneration means literally "rebirth" and is the term used to signify the actual renewing of the self which, according to Christian theology, occurs with the reception of grace. How this takes place has been a subject of much discussion in the history of Christian thought. In Roman Catholicism it is associated with the sacraments; in Protestantism with the gift of the Holy Spirit.
That's all it says about it. I have more comments to make about it...but I thought that starting with a definition of it would be good.
(the better definition is in the Faith Sharing NT, which I can't find...and I will have to post in a couple of days) I'm going to look in the back of some of my Bible's too....to help give a picture of what it is. Then we can actually talk about it.
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Post by Davros on Oct 20, 2010 15:05:04 GMT -5
Interestingly regeneration was not called that until pertwee regenerated into baker,before that it was referred to a couple of times as 'Renewal'.Making the link to religion this thread made me realise that the doctor's former mentor who said 'I will give his regeneration a little push start' was also a Tibetan monk so perhaps he knew about the religious connotations of the word.
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Post by The Tenth Doctor on Oct 20, 2010 22:03:05 GMT -5
(Oh good....now I have someone who is reading this thread...I can copy and paste more )
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Post by The Tenth Doctor on Oct 21, 2010 11:47:31 GMT -5
2CO 5:11 Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 12 We are not trying to commend ourselves to you again, but are giving you an opportunity to take pride in us, so that you can answer those who take pride in what is seen rather than in what is in the heart. 13 If we are out of our mind, it is for the sake of God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you. 14 For Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
2CO 5:16 So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20 We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
RO 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
RO 6:5 If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin-- 7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
RO 6:8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.
RO 6:11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. 14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
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Post by Sisilaya Vulmecura on Feb 17, 2011 12:37:58 GMT -5
I think regeneration was a brilliant plot twist they came up with to make these series go on for ever and ever and ever, and cheat out of the ageing of the Doctor himself. I mean, he was around in the 60s and he still has the face of a 26 years old! (Matt)
It's funny, because in regular roleplays cheating out of death like that would be so seen as godmodding, but somehow the fact the Doctor gets away with it makes it all the more epic XD
In my eyes, regeneration is like dying and being reborn.. only you retain your memories and you don't have to deal with 18 years of growing up. Which is brilliant, I think people would kill to have an ability like that, even more so then the elixir of life.
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Post by casey711 on Jun 14, 2011 16:51:39 GMT -5
I had a crazy thought of regeneration. What if everytime the Doctor regenerates he doesn't regenerate into another him he regenerates into like his son? Like the tenth doctor is the ninth doctors son, the eleventh is the tenths son and and so on and so on.
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Post by The Fifth Doctor on Jun 15, 2011 0:27:14 GMT -5
That'd be awfully strange.
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